In this episode of Honestly, Dear Listener, we dive into the magic of creative collaboration and how making art with others can be an act of rebellion and resistance. With over 30 years of creating together, we share insights on what makes a great artistic partnership: trust, filling in each other’s gaps, and finding that creative flow.
This week, we filmed a music video to Alanis Morissette’s “Ironic,” complete with middle school choreography—a joyful reclaiming of the secular music we weren’t allowed to listen to as kids. We discuss how making art can help us heal stolen parts of our childhoods and push back against a world that often feels heavy. We also explore how to tell the difference between when your body is saying “no” versus when it’s creative resistance you need to push through—and why resistance can show up even with things you love.
Tune in for stories of pee, laughter, and inspiration to keep making art with people who light you up.
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